On Saturday the SIPP of choice for my Company Pension transfer was heading towards Interactive Investor and their annual costs of £176. Valued reader comments plus some more DYOR has instead led me to Hargreaves Lansdown. Before you Comment that they are an expensive percentage fee broker/platform with annual charges of 0.45% let’s run through my thinking.
Firstly, dearieme highlighted that provided you stick with Shares, investment trusts, ETFs,
gilts & bonds and don’t add any funds Hargreaves Lansdown become a percentage fee broker/platform but with a capped maximum annual expense of £200. I can work within that no fund criteria. So now once your pension is greater than £44,444 that 0.45% starts to reduce. Transfer £100,000 and it’s down to 0.2%. On top of that John and Cerridwen also raised some red flags against Interactive Investor.
Secondly, even though the SIPP is now capped I hear you saying that it’s still £24 a year more expensive than Interactive Investor and sweating the small stuff matters. This is where it gets interesting. Hargreaves Lansdown currently have a promotion running until the 12 May 2015 that provides a cash back incentive for transfers of Stocks & Shares ISA’s, Cash ISA’s, Junior ISAs/Child Trust Funds (CTFs), Funds, Shares and Pensions. They also advise that “if you need more time to decide please let us know and we will extend this deadline for you (up to three months for ISA, fund and share transfers, and six months for pensions).” Transfer big sums and it’s a significant amount. Between £100,000 and £124,999 and its £250 cash back which means you’re now ahead of Interactive Investor’s current annual charges for 10 years. Transfer £125,000 or more and its £500 which puts you ahead for 20 years. Dealing costs for me are going to also be £1.95 more expensive than Interactive Investor but I think I can set the SIPP up with 9 trades which would take a bit under 1 year off that benefit.
I highlighted in Saturday’s post that the reason for not just using my current YouInvest SIPP was the all eggs in one basket risk. I currently have some of my HYP in a Hargreaves Lansdown Vantage Fund & Share Account and so adding a Hargreaves Lansdown SIPP will increase my exposure with this provider from 6% to 21%. I’m ok with that level of risk.
So by switching from Interactive Investor to Hargreaves Lansdown I can save some money while also moving to a wrapper that I know and am happy with while keeping provider risk to acceptable levels.
Firstly, dearieme highlighted that provided you stick with Shares, investment trusts, ETFs,
gilts & bonds and don’t add any funds Hargreaves Lansdown become a percentage fee broker/platform but with a capped maximum annual expense of £200. I can work within that no fund criteria. So now once your pension is greater than £44,444 that 0.45% starts to reduce. Transfer £100,000 and it’s down to 0.2%. On top of that John and Cerridwen also raised some red flags against Interactive Investor.
Secondly, even though the SIPP is now capped I hear you saying that it’s still £24 a year more expensive than Interactive Investor and sweating the small stuff matters. This is where it gets interesting. Hargreaves Lansdown currently have a promotion running until the 12 May 2015 that provides a cash back incentive for transfers of Stocks & Shares ISA’s, Cash ISA’s, Junior ISAs/Child Trust Funds (CTFs), Funds, Shares and Pensions. They also advise that “if you need more time to decide please let us know and we will extend this deadline for you (up to three months for ISA, fund and share transfers, and six months for pensions).” Transfer big sums and it’s a significant amount. Between £100,000 and £124,999 and its £250 cash back which means you’re now ahead of Interactive Investor’s current annual charges for 10 years. Transfer £125,000 or more and its £500 which puts you ahead for 20 years. Dealing costs for me are going to also be £1.95 more expensive than Interactive Investor but I think I can set the SIPP up with 9 trades which would take a bit under 1 year off that benefit.
I highlighted in Saturday’s post that the reason for not just using my current YouInvest SIPP was the all eggs in one basket risk. I currently have some of my HYP in a Hargreaves Lansdown Vantage Fund & Share Account and so adding a Hargreaves Lansdown SIPP will increase my exposure with this provider from 6% to 21%. I’m ok with that level of risk.
So by switching from Interactive Investor to Hargreaves Lansdown I can save some money while also moving to a wrapper that I know and am happy with while keeping provider risk to acceptable levels.